kc1332; sting290860; j_parfitt; screengenies; glassmedic
Welcome to the forum, 12hours and its goodbye.
Actually, scrub that about The Stagg. Andy = no prisoners.
Time to say goodbye.
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This Forum is a place for serious Automotive Glazing Professionals, to share and impart knowlege that they have learnt the hard way, to improve our industry for all concerned.
As from Monday 14th Febuary 2011, any "watchers" who just follow posts, glean information, or do not even have the common courtesy to introduce themselves, Will be removed and will need to re-apply. Non posters of more than 30days will also sadly need to re-apply.
A lot of time and effort has gone into creating this forum, I for one feel priviledge to be part of it. I know if i have a question there will be someone on this forum who will know the answer, or be able to find a answer, this is priceless in this industry, and as far as i know, the first time this has ever happened.
So let me get this right, if i do not come on here for 30 days because i am working all hours god send
you will delete me from the forum ,THAT SOUND FAIR ( not ) ,i was under the understanding that this forum was to help members and not to treat them like other company forums ,yes you do work hard on this forum but that is no reason to keep people off or punish them for not posting comments all week every week ,if you don't like the people that are on here( just looking ) then why did you open it up to others ,and most on here are professional windscreen companies or fitters who will use the site to help them selfs and might not post . yours most unhappy A B screens
I think you're reading this wrong.
This is not aimed at anyone who hasn't posted for a while, but the 'voyeurs' who login, park up but don't go as far as introducing themselves, or make any contribution whatsoever. There is little point in these people registering on the site if they - after long periods of time - do not make a single contribution, or extend the courtesy of saying a simple hello.
Incidentally, nobody gets banned for that reason. Simple housekeeping in that we would prefer the forum stats to show that the number of members are all active members. That's all. These people can still use their initial login and come back in whenever they choose.
Ab, Im sorry you have read this the wrong way, i dont think i mentioned banned or if somebody is not liked. Im not on here all day, every day either, and Im sure i possibly work as hard as you do.
BUT my friend, the reason for this is something you do not see, the amount of lurkers in the background, that pick up tips and contacts at the other members expense, I can see a tidal wave hitting this forum of new start ups, will you be complaining when they start picking up tips on your area, and billing the insurace companies through the information gained from here?, and not contributing or even introducing themselves.
If you do have a problem and you want to discuss it further, please feel free to give me a call.
Andy 07795 187180
Abscreens, I've got to agree because if everyone just logged on & pinched tips etc, without contributing themselves we would no longer have Tagg! sorry to be blunt but its a fact.
"non posters of more than 30 days will have to re-apply"
This comment states that anybody that isn't active for 30 days will automatically be deleted, this isn't fair if it happens to somebody that regularly posts but suddenly doesn't post for a month. This could cause valuable members being removed from the forum and surely this is only going to make matters worse?
My previous comment never actually stated that people were "disliked" in any way; it was describing you not liking people who simply scout and never input anything constructive. Some people also like to watch what is going off on a forum and read the threads, a lot probably don't want to steal work or provide a negative vibe in any way yet are being punished. Not everybody wants to post and surely you must consider this fact because it happens on every forum on the web.
However I do agree with deleting/banning accounts that troll the forum and provide nothing but negative inputs, these accounts do need to be monitored and actions need to be taken. Even though it is morally wrong to steal work; how can your work be stolen unless you provide deep information, isn't this down to you?
"non posters of more than 30 days will have to re-apply"
This comment states that anybody that isn't active for 30 days will automatically be deleted, this isn't fair if it happens to somebody that regularly posts but suddenly doesn't post for a month.
-abscreens
There are some guys on here that are always really busy but the effort is made to post, exceptions can be made i.e. holidays & sickness having said that we could be informed about this, but surely everyone can contribute atleast a few posts within 30 days at the very least, its not a lot to ask..
'In a nut shell' If everyone just logged on & browsed without posting, eventually we would have nothing to read would we!
You're still looking far too deeply into this. The statement is to alert any of the newbies who have yet not posted, ie, if you're registered a profile but haven't gone as far as introducing yourself (in 30 days) we'll take that as a non-starter.
As I've said previously, nothing more than general housekeeping and encouraging everyone to take part. In the main forum you'll see there are a few taggers who haven't posted for several months; they're still there.
The 'rule' applies to newbies.
When there is inactivity from an established member, somebody somewhere will make contact sooner or later to see if everything is ok, or if they need help with anything. Similarly, PMs are sent out to noobs, but if they don't respond to that as well - and I'm sure you'll agree - there is little point in them being here, right?
I am one of those who through pressure of work has not had the time to post as often as I should, and feeling guilty for it as well, to the point of not feeling comfortable visiting the forum because of not wanting to "take" information without giving back my fair share ( this is just how I am, and not a reflection of anything said by anyone on here)
I totally agree about your view on newbees just scanning the site for free info, thats not what the forum is about.
I get regular emails from Tagg admin, and as we are all in the same boat they understand that we cannot all be on here all the time. After all, I am still here to proove that fact 
"non posters of more than 30 days will have to re-apply"
This comment states that anybody that isn't active for 30 days will automatically be deleted, this isn't fair if it happens to somebody that regularly posts but suddenly doesn't post for a month. This could cause valuable members being removed from the forum and surely this is only going to make matters worse?
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I think the whole ethos of the site needs refreshing.
I know a lot about my industry as do others. Now if you were in my shoes and some strange windscreen fitter/company asks you for help in a certain area, for example, billing NFU, would you willingly give out information that gives you a competitive edge over others to someone who you don't know? For all you know they could be your closest rival.
The idea of the site is to help others, share and share alike, I tell you how to bill NFU you tell me how to reset a BMW door glass. If you are only on once every 3 months how are you going to share info?
Not saying I members should be here every day, week or even month but as admins we know who is lurking, reading others posts and how long members have been on line. If the regular visitors choose not to post we can only assume they are hanging round trying to glean information for free, not taking part in the barter. I for one am careful what info I freely give out to all and sundry, I will however go out of my way to help the friends I have made here.
This place is a rare thing in this trade and is the first and only successful resource of it's kind, it needs members inputs to keep growing and providing the knowledge we all need. As far as I am concerned no one will be getting booted for not being able to "attend".
We all have busy lives and the internet is not for everyone but we need to control who sees our info and if in doing so we upset a member we are all sorry but it's to protect all the members who input their knowledge.
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IGNORE THIS POST I Had a silly rant...
Dave - you haven't been booted out; check your status.
Paul....Sorry but it wouldnt let me in earlier, and I read the posts about 30 day stuff and blew my sausage....appologies to all for my rant, but it is a sore point and I still dont agree....
This forum is a rare thing in this trade. As Ian said it is 'the first and only successful resource of it's kind', so it clearly needs members inputs to keep growing, and providing the knowledge we all need to survive in an ever changing industry.
Time for the shy ones to come forward. You have all gained a lot from this forum. Some of us have been in this industry a few decades, and have learnt the hard way. We provide valuable information you can rely on. Remember, we are in a fiercly competitive business, with more dirty tactics and anti competitive restrictions to over come than most industries ever have to face. Participate, and help yourselves.
